Characters Battles Teams Super Powers Forum Feed Collections. 7 Goku And Vegeta: Better Fighting â¦ Vegeta: Dang it, I will not allow you win Kakarrot! Goku states he overtaxed himself and he could barely move. Let's see, Dialga's very heartbeat keeps time going onwards. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! If you go into my archive and look at my VERY first post, it uses scans from the manga to debunk everything else you’ve said. Who Will Prevail?!") Romaji name Do you think Goku knew from the start he was going to lose and chose to fight anyways to protect Earth? So even if Superman is on top of the fight, he would be wise to end it quickly because if Vegeta is given enough time, he will definitely â¦ Duplicate Vegeta fires a barrage of energy blasts at Goku, who manages to block them. Trunks, Goten, Potage and Jaco fly to where Duplicate Gryll was knocked to, but see that he is gone, and so is Commeson's core. So Round 1 is a stomp by Dialga, either through it's time warping ability, or if Goku and Vegeta manage to kill it, they also lose due to them literally killing the being that makes time go round. Excluding Goku/Vegeta, could the z fighters have won vs nappa in sayian saga? The Majin Charm was a potential unlock, so even after he died, Vegeta kept that power and with that power and Goku are dead even and Vegeta outright said SSJ2 Goku was stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan. Japanese Name So, here we go: It’s common knowledge both SSJ3 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta could NOT beat Gohan absorbed Boo (also known as Boohan) without fusing together into Vegerot, so we can safely say Boohan is stronger than both Goku and Vegeta alone. If they were still able to stay in SSJ3 for extended periods of time after they returned to life, the rest of the arc would have been a joke. Copy-Vegeta Saga Goku vs Majin Vegeta: Stalemate. Goku asks Vegeta if he was chewing on a pacifier, to which Vegeta is confused. Vegeta then cripples Goku’s body and Goku manages to let off one energy blast in Vegeta’s eye before saying he can no longer move any part of his body. Back on Earth, Videl is holding Pan, who is chewing on a pacifier, saying that she will soon move past them. Doesn't matter Goku was still alive and conscious: without outside help he was unable to do anything. Potage re-seals Commeson, and thanks everyone for their efforts. However, why would Goku and Vegeta laugh at Kid Boo if he got stronger? 0. If you need the long and detailed version, brace yourself and remember before you try arguing it, this was all in the manga: When Goku arrives back on Earth to face Vegeta and Nappa, Vegeta states that Goku’s combat level is 8,000 (Yes, 8000, not 9000 like that one bad dub said). They then pronounce to each other that they will not lose. So, how old is Cell Games saga Gohan? Hell, we could take both characters at the very end of their respective timelines. Goku was done, beat and couldnât move at all to fight. However, after Goku privately tells him of Sonic's fate and his desire to save him from it if he can, Vegeta begins paying more attention to Sonic throughout the final battle of â¦ This saga is TV Original and not based on the manga. Trunks asks if there is another way to save Vegeta, as the fight could get very violent, and Potage suggests that the core of Commeson should be crushed, so its copies can become weaker. Once Goku was beat then the earthling and Gohan beat Vegeta. ?, lit. Then Gohan and Krillin arrive. Nothing he did could hurt Fat Boo. The problem there is there are many forms of Superman, each with their own different timeline ending. Power. It was him and him alone, so his power was his with zero extra support, unlike Fat Boo with four Kai’s or Super Boo with Gohan/Gotenks/Piccolo. Jaco is frustrated of the idea of it not being interested in Jaco's power. Not only are characters like Goku and Vegeta already insanely powerful, they regularly train to become even more powerful and seek out worthy opponents to test their strength.. With all of â¦ Goku begins his battle to the death with Duplicate Vegeta, and they turn out to be evenly matched. Vegeta tells Goku that he cannot beat him with attacks like that, as Duplicate Vegeta aggressively pushes Goku back. Sure, Charlie Sheen would probably win just because he’s Charlie Sheen, but there’s no way for us to say who would win since we have no idea what that other dimension is like or what the other being could do in this one. is the forty-sixth episode of Dragon Ball Super. Which One Is Going to Win?! Vegeta steps in-between Trunks and Commeson, as Trunks screams out for his father. Obviously, Supes would win that fight and obliterate Goku. Flamechamp2333: 41: 12/20 3:36PM: The manga unintentionally made a new retcon.. Ssj3 Goku (Buu saga) is SSB tier: â¦ æç©ºVSè¤è£½ãã¸ã¼ã¿! SHDb; uStats; Intelligence. Potage notes that even though the core was destroyed, time has ran out and Vegeta is disappearing. No spirit fusion. Vegeta "defeated" Goku AFTER the battle so it doesn't count, and even though we all know SSJ3 Goku would've wiped the floor with Vegeta this never happened so we can't call Goku â¦ SSB Goku vs. SSJ4 Goku would most likely be a draw. First, I’ll explain how Fat Boo overpowers Super Boo (even as far as Gohan absorbed). When Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta, Goku survived as he was being sent to Earth. Kaio-Ken would double Goku to a combat level of 16,000, still less than Vegeta’s, so Kaio-Ken x 3 would triple it to make it 24,000, significantly higher than Vegeta’s, demonstrated when he beat the shit out of Vegeta. First off, contrary to popular belief and incorrect dubbing, Goku COULD NOT defeat Fat Boo and flat out said so in the manga. That doesn’t add up. Vegeta tells Duplicate Vegeta to win as fast as possible, then tells Goku not to hold back, then flies back to the ground. SOS from the Future: A Dark New Enemy Appears! That instantly nullifies any and all chance of an equal battle between the two. If you’re including non-canon stuff anyway, Broly get’s further levels of Super Saiyan, including 3 and 4 in Heroes. SSJ1 Goku with a power-up from Piccolo, Trunks, Gohan, and Vegeta made Goku powerful enough to beat Broly in a single punch. Durability. He’s the hero who tries no matter how bad the outcome looks. While they are running from Commeson, Jaco is panicking that he will become a victim and a copy of him is made, but Trunks reassures him that he would quickly defeat his clone. Katsu no wa dotchida! Goku has a very established end of his timeline, whether it be when he leaves with Oob in the final chapter of Z or you’re one of those people who prefers the ending to GT and he flies off with Shenlong. Given Gohan is 16 post time skip and time skip lasted seven years, Teen Gohan is, in fact, a nine year old during the Cell Games. Now stop spreading the whole “Kid Boo is strongest Boo” thing, people. Vegeta powers up and launches off a Galick Gun that would’ve been somewhere between a power level of 24,000 and 32,000, as Goku’s ONLY way of overpowering it was using a 4x Kaio Ken, pushing him to 32,000, enough to counter Vegeta’s Galick Gun. Again to prove the point, SSJ2 Vegeta at full power (even detonating his own body) didn’t even phase Fat Boo. That should mean that in Trunks' time line there must have been another Trunks coming from his future to tell about Goku black but that can't be since 1. : then trunks would have already known about Goku black in his future time line since the future future trunks appeared already (l and 2. : that would also end in an endless â¦ Yet, Vegeta at SSJ2 could actually damage Kid Boo, which showed as Kid Boo would show slight damage and anger at being hurt. As an example, chi is the name of the energy Goku and the other Z fighters use. Vegeta tells Goku that he cannot beat him with attacks like that, as Duplicate Vegeta aggressively pushes Goku back. Vegeta beat Goku without any cheating at all. Vegeta starts getting frustrated that Duplicate Vegetâ¦ So, in that instance, Goku would demolish Superman in just about any stage of his life. Fat Boo wanted to eat and play. Official Superhero Database â¦ Z fighters vs Vegeta = Vegeta lost, couldnât fight or move â¦ SSJ1 Gohan and SSJ1 Goten together managed to beat Broly, so that ends it right there. While most Dragon Ball fans believe that Super Saiyan 4 Goku wouldnât stand a chance against Super Saiyan Blue Goku, the truth is that itâs very hard to guess which one is the strongest. After Yajirobe removes Vegeta’s tail, he states he STILL has enough power to kill every last one of them, demonstrating it by knocking out Yajirobe and Krillin and then going after Gohan. who would win between MUI goku and super saiyan blue evolution vegeta vs full power naruto and sasuke ( sorry but idk what their full power is) Press J to jump to the feed. He could leap tall buildings and outrun speeding bullets and that was about the peak of his power. The manga states Gohan is 16 after the time skip between Cell Games and the Saiyaman sagas. Kid Boo only seemed powerful because he could still overpower Goku and Vegeta, which any form of Boo already proved they could already do. Its original American airdate was January 13, 2018. This why in the final battle with Kid Buu, Goku was SSJ1/2 most of the time, and would temporarily pop into SSJ3 from time to time. That’s a mistranslation in the FUNimation dub that everyone likes to spread around for some reason. Which One Is Going to Win?! Menace of the Duplicate Vegeta! Goku is shocked to see the sight of Vegeta chewing on a pacifier. Now, if chi doesn’t exist in Superman’s universe and the two fought in Superman’s universe, Goku instantly has zero power to draw from. Every other Saigon Vs Goku and Vegeta. I’m currently involved in yet another DBZ debate, this time concerning a guy claiming that Broly could beat Boo in a fight. He didn’t hide or run or back down from Vegeta. Well, I’m here to explain two things that a lot of people aren’t going to be happy about. Gohan strikes it back when Vegeta dodges it and Vegeta takes the full force brunt of the Spirit Bomb. Only Kid and Super Boo were ever hurt. Next episode The problem with Goku vs. Superman is there is no incarnation of Superman that is 100% evenly matched against Goku. This episode is the first to have different music for the preview of the next episode, it's also the first time. Compared to Goku, Vegeta's relationship with Sonic was that of co-workers who got along well enough, but didn't really interact with each other all that much. Trunks notices that Vegeta's ki is disappearing, and quickly flies to him, and Goten follows. The opposite might be true for Superman. They wouldn’t have. Chi-Chi, when told Goku will be returning for the tournament, says it has been SEVEN years since she last saw Goku, which would’ve been right before the Cell Games. Inability to access isn’t the same as not having altogether. "Goku vs Copy-Vegeta! When the final villain blows up Earth five seconds into forming, fans are going to form the impression he’s the strongest one. After freeing Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Piccolo, Goku states Super Boo (in his original form he fought Gotenks in) is still too powerful for either SSJ3 Goku or SSJ2 Vegeta, so that proves Super Boo even without any absorbed fighters is stronger than either of them. The two then prepare to continue their fight. Aesop. What do you think? Goku remains in base structure as it is not his style to battle at 100% immediately he needs to test his opponentâs strength.. Goku charges towards Narutoâs clones in his base form. Let’s take the original comics Superman. Vegeta Disappears?! Now stop spreading the whole “Broly is strongest character” thing. Super Saiyan 3>Buu, in terms of pure power. While the Broly Saga was skipped in the manga, references to it in âBattleâs End and Aftermathâ imply that the events still occurred. However, as I pointed out, Fat Boo is the end result of Kid Boo gaining the power of FOUR different characters that could each beat Freeza with a punch. Strength. After using x3, Goku states he is already out of power and won’t be able to continue much longer, while Vegeta has plenty in reserve. Neither Goku nor Vegeta alone could handle Fat Boo OR Super Boo, so it’s no surprise they’d still struggle against Kid Boo, who was only a couple pegs below Fat and Super Boo. Japanese airdate Goku was NOT strong enough to beat Fat Boo. Jaco points out that Vegeta is even more transparent than before. The most modern version of the characters apply. In the final battle, Goku fought Kid Boo ONLY in SSJ3, not SSJ1 nor SSJ2. æç©ºVSè¤è£½ãã¸ã¼ã¿! First, we are never given a true example of how powerful Fat Boo is. It isn’t until Gohan goes Oozaru by pure accident that Vegeta is finally beaten and left helpless and has to retaliate to fight another day. The core is seen hiding behind the group, and tries to sneak up on Goten, but Trunks and Jaco notices and blast through it, to no avail. Goku, realizing this is his chance, fires a God Kamehameha at Duplicate Vegeta, disintegrating him. All their power derives from chi. That Kai’s goodness combined with Fat Boo losing the ability to summon all of his power due to de-evolution inside the cocoon for so long led Fat Boo to not being able to draw upon all of his power. The problem is that Goku wasn’t really trying in the first fight with Buu because they wanted Gotenks to do it, and then when they had to be the one to do it(with Vegeta), they were brought back to life. After landing on Earth, the young Saiyan was found in the woods by an old man named Gohan and became his adopted grandson. On top of that, Thanos' skin is built like a rock â¦ I’m currently involved in yet another DBZ debate, this time concerning a guy claiming that Broly could beat Boo in a fight. After many years Goku is kind of a protector to earth with Vegeta â¦ So, why still fight knowing he couldn’t win? One Supes may end a timeline being just a pretty strong guy who can beat up criminals with ease but would be made into a pile of goo by Raditz while another Supes may end a timeline as an omnipotent God who can mold reality into what he wants and be too high of a transcendent being to even be touched. It is a potential advantage they can use. Instead of making a cliche hero beats villain plot, Toriyama gave character. Mystic Gohan, who’s stronger or at least as strong as SSJ3, also owned Buu hard, but Buu ended up absorbing them anyway because they were able to absorb Gotenks and Piccolo, and the power boost from Gotenks along with Piccolo’s knowledge gave them just enough of an edge to be able to absorb Gohan, but even then, in a straight fight Mystic Gohan would have ended them sooner then later. However, using barely a margin of his power, Fat Boo was able to blast SSJ2 Gohan clear across the planet and into an inch of his life, which Kid Boo couldn’t even do to Vegeta, who was a little stronger and also an SSJ2. Broly was born on Planet Vegeta around the same time as Prince Vegeta and Goku, but even as a baby, Brolyâs power level was abnormally high - so high that King Vegeta exiled â¦ 2. Vegeta then begins to argue with his copy about his sloppy style of fighting. Vegeta even points out that all the enemies Supreme Kai says are powerful have been very little effort to dispose of and that Boo overall had less power due to being locked away in the cocoon. I don't post very often and mostly only do when I need a point raised to share with someone. Goku must then use the Kaio-Ken times 3 just to surpass Vegeta. Potage tells Vegeta to chew on the key to Commeson, as it could earn him a little time, which the Saiyan prince does. Vegeta won vs Goku. 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